not a matter of just personal privacy and civil liberties, also a matter of business independence and allowing businesses to operate without intrusion from the government and being told what they need to do in order to take these preventives steps. so it seems like a lot of overreach both in private lives. i know a lot of people in law enforcement. they're doing just fine with the tools at their current disposal. >> we want to help them as much as possible. it has to be reasonable search and seizure. i think the way we achieve that is if they have a suspect, we have a system of checks and balances. we have a judiciary. they have the ability, katie, to go to court and request a tap on somebody's e-mails. >> right. >> etc. and text messaging and why would we want to put private companies in the middle of that? >> well, this is the thing. coming from a private company perspective, private companies like verizon, t-mobile, all these tech-type companies or wireless providers don't store text message information for a reason, and it's because when you start storing the personal and private